Posts by bite me

Why are they missing meetings?
Whatever the reason, it's valid. Support them in their decision to take care of themselves in whatever way they are doing it.
If they are not at meetings, they are probably taking a rest, rejuvenating, working, caring for ill children/parents/selves.
Whatever the reason, encourage that specific behavior and activity. It *is* important. And if you let them know that it helps prevent burnout, they will not feel so guilty the next time the feel the urge to miss again.
Missing meetings is a sign of someone finding the importance of balance and 'normalcy' - what ever that is!!
Yes??
-Aude.

They have been taking care of family, yet they feel guilty for not going to the meetings.

Sounds like your friend is still communicating with you, so thats good.

I think it is wonderful that they are still in communication with me. I don't know what I would do if they were not, and for my family that would suck if they ever stopped having anything to do with me for trying to save them.

I've heard a few comments recently that the JWs are suggesting that armageddon is particularly close - that this is why Jehovah arranged for the two different magazines and other changes in the organisation. Of course this is the age old strategy that the borg uses to keep everyone on their toes.

Oh, really? What kinds of comments? Do you have paraphrases or exact quotes of what was said to give this idea? I am currious.

The continued false sense of urgency ties into the control the organization wants to maintain. Loyalty to the organization - the #1 doctrine of the WT Society. The best way to keep them loyal is to keep them lapping up your spiritual milk (skim though it is).

Loyalty to the organization is all I see from those I know in the organization. Aside from them going to the meetings, I do not see them reading the Bible. I cannot even read the Bible around them because I'm afraid/embarassed. I don't want them to approach me and say that I'm doing it all wrong. I've made notes in my Bible (during my own study's) of what the verse means to me, not in a way that seems like I am trying to make my own interpertation, but just my own feelings of it. I do have an idea though, to leave it setting out one day, to see if they pick it up and kinda read my notes. But then again, they might not touch it because it is not a NWT.. it is a NKJV.

Would it be wise or a good idea to leave it out so they stumble on it some day?

Maybe others who have helped their friends to see the danger of the JW religion can chime in with more specific help.

If there are any here, please share your experience and ways that worked for you!

That is all for now. Thanks for your advise.. Please take a look at my responses. Thanks again.

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I cannot believe this

by bite me in

okay, it is like this... i have a friend who's belief is so strong in the watchtower.

they have missed "several" (three) meetings.

they said they do not want to get into trouble for missing so many.

bite me

okay, it is like this... I have a friend who's belief is so strong in the Watchtower. They have missed "several" (Three) meetings. They said they do not want to get into trouble for missing so many.

Who would they get into trouble with? God does not mind when you study his word, he just wants you do it.

Then they made a comment of they shouldn't miss meetings any more meetings "especially with the end so near"

What the heck!?!

The end has been sooo near for so long. When are they going to realize that they should study Gods word for what it is, live their life. I would rather enjoy God's word, know that I am studying and taking it for what it is worth. I'm also still able to enjoy the life that God provided me with.

This is what I need to get my friend to see too. But they have been trapped for so long. I'm really scared that they are going to get their children pulled into this too. They children are so fragile right now. They do not know better. Ideas?

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JW policy on Girl Guides and Scouts?

by HB in

i have come to this forum on the recommendation of an ex jehovah's witness who has been very helpful.

although he has given me some useful information, he suggested i post my question on here too to see what others have to say.

being new, i am not sure if i have chosen the right topic heading but if not forgive me!.

bite me

They're just cookies! Why do they make a big deal other wise. Sure you're helping the girl scouts out, but you get a nice box of cookes too. I'm going to buy cookies next time and mail them to my JW's neighbors. lol

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2007 Memorial Outline?

by V in

anyone have access to this?

i need it for watchtower comments.

wouldn't it be nice to scoop the talk?.

bite me

Didn't Christ have 12 apostles? Not 11 as the outline says?

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May 15th 2008 Study edition of The Watchtower as PDF file

by fokyc in

may 15th 2008 study edition of the watchtower can be downloaded here as a pdf file, it is ocrd and bookmarked:.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/w3184k.

there are 5 study articles:.

bite me

If possible, I'd like to see the public one, to see the difference in them. I'm trying to get friends and family out of this cult and the only way is to prove with their own literature.

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May 15th 2008 Study edition of The Watchtower as PDF file

by fokyc in

may 15th 2008 study edition of the watchtower can be downloaded here as a pdf file, it is ocrd and bookmarked:.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/w3184k.

there are 5 study articles:.

bite me

is there also a public edition to this?

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HI IM BACK AND MUCH NICER

by Cordelia in

jw
friends

i took oon board what you all said, to be honest i was crying all time (not like me) and i turned to you guys for support but basically what everyone said that ineeded to sort myself ouf first was right ,, and i think maybe i have, i still single but everytime my parents keep on stick up for myself they know i dont believe it no more , i know its took me ages to come to this but its true im hurting them like hell but i thinki have to for me .

does anyone understand??

xxx.

bite me

welcome back, I hope everything goes well for you.

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2007 Memorial Outline?

by V in

anyone have access to this?

i need it for watchtower comments.

wouldn't it be nice to scoop the talk?.

bite me

I just read the observing "the lords evening meal" and under Pattern for "Lords evening Meal" was set by Jesus; it says "Jesus and his 11 faithful apostles were presetn on that occasion Jesus knew that he would soon give h is olife as a perfect sacrifice...

Now tell me, weren't there 12 apostles?